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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 24 Feb 93       Volume 11 : Issue 44

Today's Topics:

      [!] 32-Bit Enabler & Hardware System Update on ftp.apple.com
      'alis' template (Q)
      'Sticking cursor' (A)
      (A) Apple Tape Backup 40SC
      (A) Open square characters
      Apple Adjustable keyboard (Q)
      CD-ROM over Netware 3.11 ?
      Centris 800x600 16bit color (A)
      Clipboard Help
      empire master
      First Things First extra clocks?
      Fried printer port (C)
      Futura SX & Seiko
      Getting rid of PrintMonitor from System 7
      GL Graphics Viewer (Q)
      GraphOn X Terminals
      Hard Drives (C)
      How I use Easy View with Quick Keys formatting correction, sorry!
      ibm/mac comparison
      Info-mac Mirors in Europe (A)
      Installing Quadra V-RAM (A) (3 msgs)
      Installing VRAM
      iq test (2 msgs)
      Is/has anyone used TimesTwo?
      LC's with VGA monitors
      LCIII SVGA Video??
      Looking for LaserLog utility (Q)
      Macintalk? Macinmute
      MacInTax Problems (C)
      MATLAB and Error of Type 1 (R)
      Maximum Memory on Mac Plus
      Music notation software
      Mysterious Icon--What Program, and Why Loading BEFORE Antiviral?
      NuBus Boxes for SE/30 (R)
      Old SE, System 7 Font conflicts (Q)
      Personal CD-ROMs?
      Photographic composites from Video [partial A]
      PowerBook 140 Screen Proble
      Public Lab Utils (A)
      Public Lab Utils (R)
      Quadra VRAM installation
      replace existing dialog hack
      Selling used monitors
      Silly questions of a new user
      Speech Recognition
      Stuffit 3.0.5 engine upgrade
      StyleWriter II vs. DeskWriter
      SupraFAXModem 14400 v.32bis modem
      suprafax v32 bis
      System 7.0.1 vs. 7.1?
      The hardware system upgrade is great!
      VIRTUAL MEMORY
      Window title bar behind menu bar (Q)
      Word 5.0 Line Weight (Q)
      X Windows for the Mac

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Date: 24 Feb 93 17:19:46 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Mark B. Johnson)
Subject: [!] 32-Bit Enabler & Hardware System Update on ftp.apple.com

Apple's 32-Bit System Enabler and Hardware System Update 1.0, both which
run under System 7.1, are now available on ftp.apple.com (130.43.2.3) in
the /ftp/dts/mac/sys.soft/ directory.  Thanks to the product managers for
letting us post it on ftp.apple.com.

If you prefer, you can obtain disk-based copies of either directly from
Apple by calling [phone].  (A $10 shipping and handling fee applies
to EACH product.)  For further information, customers in the United
States should call the Apple USA Customer Assistance Center at (800)
776-2333.

Customers outside the United States should contact their local Apple
representatives for information on availability and distribution.

For your convenience, the press releases follow:


Apple Announces Macintosh Hardware System Update 1.0

Dateline:  CUPERTINO, California--February 24, 1993

Product Description:
Apple Computer, Inc. today announced the availability of the
Apple(R) Macintosh(R) Hardware System Update, Version 1.0.
The update contains a set of software enhancements that address
specific problems encountered by a small number of Macintosh
computer users.

The update provides system-level improvements that fine-tune the
system clock and make high-speed modem communications more
reliable for users of Macintosh LC, Macintosh LC II, Macintosh
IIsi, Macintosh IIvx, Macintosh IIvi, Macintosh Classic II,
Macintosh Quadra(TM) 900, and Macintosh Quadra 950 systems.  This
update runs under System 7.1.

In addition, the update addresses a possible floppy drive problem
for some users of the Macintosh IIsi, Macintosh IIci, Macintosh
IIvx, Macintosh IIvi, Macintosh Quadra 700 and Macintosh Quadra
950. The update eliminates possible problems these users may
encounter when ejecting diskettes during system shut-down.

This update requires System 7.1. Only customers experiencing these
problems should install the update.  Future versions of System 7(TM)
will include the enhancements described above.

Availability and Distribution:

The Apple Macintosh Hardware System Update, Version 1.0. is
available immediately.  It will be licensed to customers free of
charge through various on-line services, including AppleLink,
America-Online, and CompuServe.  The enabler will also be
available through Macintosh user groups in the United States.
Customers can obtain disk-based copies directly from Apple by
calling [phone]. (A $10 shipping and handling fee applies.)
For further information, customers in the United States should
call the Apple USA Customer Assistance Center at [phone].
Customers outside the United States should contact their local
Apple representatives for information on availability and
distribution.

_______________

Apple Adds 32-Bit System Enabler for Selected Macintosh Models

Dateline:  CUPERTINO, California--February 24, 1993

Product Description:

Apple Computer, Inc. today announced the availability of the
Macintosh 32-Bit System Enabler, a system software extension that
provides users of existing Apple(R) Macintosh(R) systems with access
to the powerful memory features of System 7.1(TM).

Apple customers using Macintosh II, Macintosh IIx, Macintosh IIcx
and Macintosh SE/30 with System 7.1 installed can take advantage
of 32-bit addressing with this system enhancement.  The 32-Bit
System Enabler allows users of these Macintosh computers to access
up to 128MB of physical RAM.  Macintosh II customers using System
7.1 can access up to 68MB of RAM when the extension is installed.
Only System 7.1 users with these systems should install the
enabler.

Besides the additional RAM, customers installing the system
software extension can also access virtual memory.  A paged memory
management unit (PMMU) is necessary to access virtual memory using
a Macintosh II.

Significance:

The 32-Bit System Enabler enhances the functionality of previously
announced Macintosh models running System 7.1 by providing
unrestricted use of the system software's rich memory expansion
features.  Without these capabilities, users of the systems listed
above do not have the internal capabilities to take advantage of
32-bit addressing.

Availability and Distribution:

The Macintosh 32-Bit System Enabler is available immediately.  It
will be licensed to customers free of charge through various on-
line services, including AppleLink(R), America-Online, and
CompuServe.  The enabler will also be available through Macintosh
user groups in the United States. Customers can obtain disk-based
copies directly from Apple by calling [phone].  (A $10
shipping and handling fee applies.)  For further information,
customers in the United States should call the Apple USA Customer
Assistance Center at [phone].  Customers outside the United
States should contact their local Apple representatives for
information on availability and distribution.


_______________
--
Mark B. Johnson                                            AppleLink: mjohnson
Developer Technical Support                         domain: [e-mail]
Apple Computer, Inc.         UUCP:  {amdahl,decwrl,sun,unisoft}!apple!mjohnson

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 11:06:33 MDT
From: Alonso Castro <[e-mail]>
Subject: 'alis' template (Q)

Hello everyone.

Does anybody know where can I get an 'alis' resource ResEdit template?
Thanks in advance.

Alonso Castro,
[e-mail]

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 08:06:45 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 'Sticking cursor' (A)

     'Sticking cursor' (A)
"M. Battista" <[e-mail]> asks:

>Has anybody else experienced problems with their mouse cursor?  As I move
>the
mouse around, at times, the mouse cursor seems to momentarily freeze.  >This
is
happening to different Macs, an LC and a IIci.  Does anybody know >what the
problem might be?

Might I suggest a mouse cleaning?  Sometimes lint gets built up on the rollers
inside the mouse and it causes you mouse (cursor) to stick as
you navigate around the screen.

This may not be the cause, but at least it's a suggestion!  ;-)

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 08:14:21 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (A) Apple Tape Backup 40SC

     (A) Apple Tape Backup 40SC
[e-mail] (John Muirhead) asks:

> I have the opportunity of getting an apple 40mb tape backup unit
>(circa 1987) for next to nothing. The catch is there is no software.
>Does anyone know how I can get the Apple software? (it's not at
>ftp.apple.com)  Alernatively, are there other drivers which would
>work with it? <$100

It depends.  Are you running System 6 or 7?  If the latter, you're out of
luck.
 :-(  The Apple tape backup software isn't System 7 compatible.  I ran into
this problem about a year ago.  One of my users using the Apple Tape Backup
Unit upgraded to System 7.  The Compatability Checker showed that the backup
software was incompatible.  I verified that after the upgrade.

If you're using System 6, I'm not sure where you could check.  Sorry!  :-(

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 08:14:16 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (A) Open square characters

     (A) Open square characters in Word 4
P Browning <[e-mail]> asks:

>I've got a mineralogist who needs an open square in Word 4 to
>represent a vacancy in a chemical formula. There are squares
>in Zapf Dingbats but they're all shaded on one side or other.
>Putting a border round a space generates a square box but
>you can't sub/superscript that. Any better suggestions
>appreciated.

I don't know if this helps you, but try one of the "unprintable"
characters.  They're usually represented by a box.  The easiest way
of getting one is by pressing the CTRL key and an alpha character
(works in most fonts).  A really neat effect is when you apply an
Outline format to the box.  Looks like a box within a box!!  ;-)
You can actually apply any normal formatting (including subscripting
or superscripting) to this.  Give it a try!!   :-)

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 09:34:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "Francis J. Van Wetering" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple Adjustable keyboard (Q)

Anyone know what this is?  I noticed it on the new price listing.  Perhaps
if someone can point me in the direction of a review...

Francis J.  Van Wetering     INTERNET: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 09:27:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "Francis J. Van Wetering" <[e-mail]>
Subject: CD-ROM over Netware 3.11 ?

My department MAY purchase a new CENTRIS 650 w/ CD-ROM for my use,
provided that the CD-ROM can be made available to other Macintosh users in
the department.  Is it possible to use the publish & subscribe facilities
in System 7 to allow others to see this drive?  The Macs are connected via
Ethernet connections to a Novell Netware 3.11 server running the Macintosh
NLM.

replies to info-mac OR directly to me.  I will summarize and post the
answers.

Francis J.  Van Wetering      INTERNET: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 01:14:18 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: Centris 800x600 16bit color (A)

>Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 18:21:04 -0600 (MDT)
>From: "Eric H. Carter" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Centris 800x600 16bit color  (Q)
>
>The press release on the Centris models states: "The built-in
>video also allows both new Macintosh Centris computers to drive many
>VGA and Super VGA monitors (commonly used with DOS PCs) in 32,768
>colors up to 800 x 600 resolution."
>
>Being a student, I am interested in the SVGA option because
>of it's potential of being *cheaper* and the hope of 800x600 resolution
>in 16 bit color. However, various mac publications have ominously
>warned that not all Super VGA monitors will work with a Centris.
>
>Can anyone recommend a good (cheap) SVGA monitor that will
>work with a Centris in 16 bit color at 800 x 600 resolution, or even
>better, explain the characteristics that identify a Super VGA monitor
>as being one that will *work*.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Eric Carter
>[e-mail]

Hi Eric,

Forget about the idea. There's numerous SVGA modes (SVGA is an ill-defined
catchall term). The SVGA mode supported by Apple is the most primitive
(800x600, 56Hz vertical refresh rate). Apple doesn't support the newer VESA
standard (72Hz refresh rate). If you can live with annoying flickers (at
56Hz) then any SVGA monitor will do. My advise is to get a good
autoscanning (or multiscanning) monitor capable of displaying 832x624 Apple
16" standard (75Hz vertical, 50kHz horizontal, at least 60Mhz bandwidth).
These monitors (14-15") will cost you $500-$700 (slightly more than the
Apple 13 or 14" fixed frequency monitors).

Tony Huang
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 23:37:45 CET
From: Paolo Pizzi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Clipboard Help

I'm looking for a CDEV or extension enabling my macintosh to:

1) copy and append to clipboard
2) copy to multiple clipboards and paste them separately

Is there anything available either PD or commercial that works flawlessly
under system 7.1?

Thanks a lot for help.

PAOLO PIZZI
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 13:55:31 gmt
From: Mark Elliott <[e-mail]>
Subject: empire master

Does anyone know the email address of Chris Eliot (no relation), the
author of empire master ?

i would like to report a possible bug before i send in my $$$$$

the problem is this:

on my mac classic 4/40, every minute or so during gameplay two OS
errors ( -201 and -205 i think ) come up in quick succession
this does not cause a crash, but is a bit annoying

i am using Apollo, Speedy Finder 7(1.5.4) with system 7.0.1 tuned
(+ gatekeeper, AD)

i have also tried BeHierarchic and Dialog Views recently

the error could be due to a corruption in my system file (my mac seems to
be playing silly buggers at the moment - time to re-install the system i
think)

has anyone else had this problem ?
is anyone using empire master on a classic with no problems ? if so
can you please let me know what extensions and control panels you use

thanks

Mark Elliott

ps. the empire master i am using is version 2.6

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:21:31 PST
From: [e-mail] (Christopher Chen)
Subject: First Things First extra clocks?

I just downloaded the First Things First 3.08 demo.  From what
the documentation says, there is supposed to be a Clocks folder
with a whole bunch of clocks in it.  It didn't come with
the demo.  Is there any way to see the clocks before I purchase it?
In other words, was my self-extracting archive not complete?  I
implied from the instructions that what I got was to be complete
and only needed to call in for the serial number.  Please mail
to me if you have a reply.  Thanks

Chris Chen                UCLA School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
[e-mail]                        Los Angeles, California  90024

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 08:14:09 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fried printer port (C)

     Fried printer port (C)
[e-mail] (Charlie Mingo) comments:

>  -- if you know your way around an electronics workshop, you might
>     try to replace the faulty chip.  Bill Lipa has a series of books
>     on repairing broken Macintoshes.  Try "The Dead Mac Scrolls".

Actually, "The Dead Mac Scrolls" was written by Larry Pina.

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 18:15 EST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Futura SX & Seiko

I'm having a problem setting up my new Futura SX video card and I was hoping
someone might have some insight into the problem.  I have a IIcx, Seiko
CM1445, and the Futura SX board running under system 7.0.1.  The card works
fine with one annoying exception. . . When I restart the mac, the video card
is somehow sending a signal to my monitor to shut off.  I have tried it under
all possible settings on the video card.  The only way I can bypass the
problem
is to keep the monitor off while I restart.  The "power outage" occurs just as
the "happy mac" pops up on the screen (i.e., before any extensions load).  If
anyone has a similar set up, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Andrew ([e-mail])

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 10:45:27 EST
From: Rob Smyser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Getting rid of PrintMonitor from System 7

In our academic cluster of macintoshes, the printers are controlled by a debit
card system that makes people pay for their own print outs.  In this setting,
spooling software is a bad idea because you want the owner of the current
debit
card to match the current print job coming out.  PrintMonitor spools, of
course,
and causes big problems sometimes.

In Chooser one can turn off Background Printing, but many users reset it to On
and then leave it that way, which screws up the next and more novice user who
isn't even sure what Chooser is.  (That's because in a one mac-one printer
setup
like in their apartments or dorms they never need to use Chooser...).  So
relyingon Chooser to solve the problem doesn't work.

Is there a way to force PrintMonitor to turn off and stay off?
Can I just delete the PrintMonitor application (or move and rename it...) ?

Any help at all is greatly appreciated.
    Rob Smyser, Manager, Computer Resource Laboratories
    MIT School of Architecture and Planning
    [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 22:05 PST
From: Michael A Reed                       <[e-mail]>
Subject: GL Graphics Viewer (Q)

Does anybody know of ANY program for the Mac which can
read/interpret GL-file animation?  All my QT stuff can't take it
(not that it should..) It's just that I have some geo/
visualization stuff, but the only players I could find ran on
UNIX or something.   Let me know if you've heard of anything...

--Me    8)

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 13:13:01 PST
From: Edan Kabatchnik <[e-mail]>
Subject: GraphOn X Terminals

>> I'm using eXodus for the Mac from White Pines Software, it works very well
>> over LocalTalk or Ethernet.  The only problem I see with it is the speed
>> of the MacTCP interface, I suppose there is a limitation on the MacTCP
>> software to run at 10Mbps, or somewhere close to that.  If I run X on a
>> GraphOn Xterm across a 14.4K dial-up line, the graphon appears to be faster
>> at screen refresh and menu drawing.  There probably is a trade-off with
>> color on the Mac, but we've had other Xterminals, Tektronixs and NCD which
>> do a lot better on the wire.

> This is not "speed limitation" of MacTCP.  Regular ol' ETHERNET itself has a
> bandwidth limit of 10 Megabits per second though such throughput is RARELY
> achieved in the real world due to the fact that multiple users and processes
> at any one time are using up a share of that bandwidth.  Bad connections
> also can cause lotsa bounced packets which slows everyone down as well.  If
> you are getting MacTCP+Ethernet performance that is seemingly much slower
> than a 14.4kilobaud dial-up, then something is fundamentally wrong with your
> configuration unless you are using a Quadra, in which case you may be
> afflicted by the bug I mentioned above.

Not necessarily.  GraphOn uses a proprietary compress X protocol which can
deliver amazing throughput for character-based X applications.  Character
based X applications running on my Macintosh IIci can occassionally run more
slowly than on my GraphOn terminal depending on the state of the network.

    - Edan

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 08:25:02 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Wade Williams)
Subject: Hard Drives (C)

>I got a flyer in the mail today from Fifth Generation Systems pushing their
>new
>Public Utilities. They say "...Macs are simply more prone to hard disk
failure
>than MS-DOS systems." Does anyone know of proof to back up this claim?


That's a ridiculous claim.  Call 5th Generation (it's a 1-800 call) and ask
them to send you their research or references that back up that claim.

Wade Williams
Academic Computing Services
Auburn University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 19:03:13 -0600
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: How I use Easy View with Quick Keys formatting correction, sorry!

       (Repost with corrected formatting.
    Had trouble with macwrite import export, should have checked, sorry)
       I have lots of experience with Wais, but like to
scan all of info-mac digest. I like to put my own notes
and own index into my own books, Wais can merely
afford me chapters that I can insert, suplementing but
not replacing easy view.

      This is a huge task and I like to record some of
the work by selection of articles of interest
electronically and automatically. Quickkeys allows
you to press a bunch of keys and then the computer
does a bunch of menu commands that would involve
an awful lot more mouse clicking and typing.
Program a useful routine once and have a joy forever
at the touch of a few keys!

     I have quickkeys and use it with Easy View to
automate trimming info-mac digests. I trim the digests
to those articles that especially interest me. My
quickkeys automation may be a prototype of
something that will be built into Easy View for
everyone, even people without quickkeys, to do. Not
in the author's next edition, as I so far understand.

      I wrote e mail to quick keys CE Software. I still
haven't heard whether they will allow me to post here
my macros in their Universal Keyset. This Keyset file
has macros that can be seen while they flip between
applications. These macros in the quickkeys editor
would be worth the thousand words that may follow. It
sounds complicated, it is complicated, but I don't do
it, quickkeys does it for me. That means you can
transfer it from a cost to a value!

     Here's what I've automated so far:

     I run Easy View and a text editor together. I paste
the table of contents of the digest into a text file on
the text editor. As I scan or read each article, I decide
if it is worthy of keeping in my own"digested digest"..
Then, I save it in my table of contents after deleting
all the subjects that came before that I didn't want. I
make a space after in my text editor to mark the next
group of candidates until a kept subject..

     The above may have been a bit vague, so I detail
things a little more.. I use my down arrow to go do the
sequence of subjects scanning for a subject I wish to
keep. When I find it, I up arrow to the end of the group
of subjects I want to delete. I select the subject field
and then press keys command-option-j. That is my
quick keys macro for copy to clipboard, change from
Easy View to text editor , bring up find dialoge, paste
into find box and do a find, then carriage-return-
delete. This marks with a following space the
previous set of subjects I want to delete by hand. I
then select from the space above the once
candidates to the space above the wanted subject
that came from the carriage return. I then backspace
delete and insert a space after the wanted subject to
mark the next group of candidates. I repeat until I
finish the subject  table

     Next I use command option d which invokes "clip
to file" menu item. I name "mac# notes" as a new file
to clip notes to.

     Then I stick Easy Views cursor on top of the
digest. I go into the text editor and select 1st subject
that I left included in this list. I then press command
option f (f for first) . This copies selection to clip-
board, changes to Easy View , command fs, pastes
into command text box, and does a double find to get
past subject list in contents into the subject main
body itself, then a command k to copy to a file.

     Command option g macro on successive text
editor subject selections do the single find required
to get to subject main bodies..

     When repeats of above finish clipouts, I again do
a command option D to close the clipout file. I then
select the trimmed index in my text editor and copy it.
I open the clipfile and paste the index on top of it for a
trimmed digest.

     Each digest I feed into easy view. When I've
completed a set of ten digests, I feed all my notes into
one easyview index file.

      Next, I command option D to name cumulative
index for a trimmed digest set

      Then, I right arrow down a set of digests
command k'ing to collect the trimmed indices into this
file.

      Then, I use a word processor to print the
cumulative interesting indices and put them in a real
folder in a real file.

      I could also alias all indices into a common folder
for Easy View to search by just selecting all in a
digest set folder then aliasing which makes all
aliases selected which I drag to a common folder in
which I have a broad index search. I checked this
was possible, but have not made such a search..

      Maybe some of you will be confused about what I
wrote and wish to write me. I know when the idea is
built into the program, it will be much simpler to use
than something I could build with quickkeys. If you
don't like the way I wrote it up, make nice and write
me one place where you were the most confused.
Asking for it, I generally get it! I believe that seeing
how your readers are confused is the way to learn to
write.

      And please feel free to speed read me or scan
me if you must, for the good stuff too.

    Hope this helps!

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:59:03 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ibm/mac comparison

A while back Apple published figures purporting to objectively
compare performance of IBM v Mac. Does anyone have the figures
or no where a report is filed. I've checked with Archie and
there's nothing listed under obvious key words except that
recent quite useful technical report on the theoretical
theoretical performance. I'm actually looking for something
a bit more empirical. In case anyone is interested the technical
report is filed at info-mac under reports as mac-ibm-compare-131.

Denni
--
INTERNET: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 02:48:27 +0100
From: Danny Schwendener <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-mac Mirors in Europe (A)

>I know this has been posted before but could someone tell me where I can find
>Info-mac in Europe?

Assuming that you mean the info-mac file archives, your closest
mirror is nic.switch.ch, located in Zurich, Switzerland
(path /mirror/info-mac/).

-- Danny Schwendener                       E-mail: [e-mail]
   ezInfo Information Services, Swiss Fed. Institute of Technology (ETHZ)

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 01:35:15 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: Installing Quadra V-RAM (A)

>Date: 23 Feb 93 09:20:00 EST
>From: "Dananberg, Jamie" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Installing Quadra V-RAM (Q)
>
>We recently purchased 2 VRAM SIMMS (? 512K total, 256K each) to install into
a
>Quadra 700.
>These are the Apple chips by the way. Given the Apple warning that this had
to
>be
>installed by a Tech Services Rep for warranty reasons (it wasn't my computer
>so I wasn't
>about to fry the board, although that hasn't stopped me before), I dropped of
>the
>computer. On its return, I find out that the maximum screen depth is still
256
>colors, the
>same before and VRAM was added. I thought that the whole point of adding VRAM
>was to
>increase the bit depth of the monitor. We have a standard Apple 14" monitor.
I
>called the
>Tech services individual who told me that he noticed that when he added the
>VRAM. I asked
>him whether he thought that was strange or not and if the VRAM was
>functioning. He told me
>he checked with someone who told him the VRAM was to speed up video intensive
>tasks like
>Quicktime movies. I told him that I was sure that wasn't the case; that the
>VRAM was to
>increase screen colors.
>
>Do we need to add additional VRAM? The Quadra 700 has 8 VRAM SIMM slots of
>which we have
>filled only 2. What is the achievable screen depth for different size
monitors
>based on
>the amount of VRAM added?
>
>Jamie Dananberg
>EMAIL:  [e-mail]   or    [e-mail]

Several points.

First, to see the effect on your 14" screen, you need to fill all 8 VRAM
slots by adding 6 (not 2) VRAM SIMMs. Second, your Tech services are
obviously incompetent (this's not uncommon). You were right that extra VRAM
was supposed to increase the pixel depth (you just didn't add enough of
them), not to speed up video processing (at least not on the Quadras).
Finally, if you know how to install SIMMs you can install VRAM (identical
procedure). The VRAM SIMMs you bought from Apple (or its dealer) are not
made by Apple (Apple doesn't make any memory chips). So buy from the
cheapest source (just make sure they're designed for the Quadras or
Centris).

Tony Huang
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 11:47:39 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Installing Quadra V-RAM (A)

The Apple 13" color monitor dislays 8-bit color with either .5 or 1 meg
of VRAM in a Quadra 700. To get 16-bit color you need 2 megs, i.e.
all VRAM slots must be filled with 256K VRAM SIMMs.

Adding .5 meg VRAM gets you from 4 bit depth to 8-bit on the Portrait,
the 2-page mono, and the 21" color display, and from 8 bit to 16 bit
on the 12" RGB. I don't know about the most recent monitors.

A common error in adding .5 meg VRAM is to put it in the wrong slots.
The 2 SIMMs have to go in the rear two slots, not the front two.

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: 24 Feb 93 13:02:00 EST
From: "Dananberg, Jamie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Installing Quadra V-RAM (A)

Thank to all who replied to my recent posting. Bottom line: If you have an
Apple 14" monitor (640 x 480) then you need to fill all of the VRAM SIMM slots
bringing the total up to 2 Mg. (There's 512K soldered on the motherboard, and
each of 6 VRAM SIMM slots hold 256K). It appears that the Q700 recognizes only
8 bit (256 colors) or 32 bit (millions) modes. If there are more troubles I'll
post another note but until then, assume I'm viewing things in living color!!

Jamie Dananberg  University of Michigan
[e-mail]   or   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 24 Feb 1993 08:40:35 -0600 (CST)
From: "John A." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Installing VRAM

Someone recently asked whether 256 colors was reasonable with 512K VRAM
installed on a Quadra. YES!

The resolution of the 14" monitor is 640x480. Therfore to have 8-bit
color, you need 640x480x8 bits => 300 Kbytes of VRAM for the whole
screen. For 16-bit color, you need twice that much. Without VRAM, the
system uses system memory for the screen memory.

Hope this helps.        John A.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 00:57:36 -0600
From: The Loony Leftist <[e-mail]>
Subject: iq test

Clare Durst <[e-mail]> writes:

>I do not think it is funny, just juvenile. Something like that
>spreading around can cause us hours of effort and time. I protest the
>IQ TEST being on info-mac.

Well, I hope that sumex-aim will not be censored for this type of
objection. 'Pseudo-crashers' have been around for years, and if people
still find them interesting, it seems like the infinitesimal amount of
space they take up shouldn't be begrudged.

But I think there are some specific flaws with 'iq test' which should
raise valid objections. Unlike its predecessor (which I have, but not
its name -- unfortunately this relic of Mac history is not happy with
_my_ computer at least, and screws up the screen on exit), it doesn't
have a clever means of exiting (namely the greyed-out 'resume' button
which is the _true_ active button). Command-period is just not familiar
enough to low-level Mac users, and most people probably would end up
restarting their machines without figuring out how to escape.

Not a flame, just a gentle suggestion to the author. I have to admit,
I like this kind of humor. :)

-Bret Aarden
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 07:03:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: IQ Test

Clare Durst <[e-mail]>
writes:

I don't want to be a spoil sport, but the last thing in the world
that those of us out there in support land need is a pseudo-crasher.
I do not think it is funny, just juvenile. Something like that spreading
around can cause us hours of effort and time. I protest the IQ TEST
being on info-mac.

Put it back on high-schoolers' bboards where it belongs.

<End of Quote>

I only have one thing to say.  Lighten up will you?  If you don't like the
description of the program, nobody is taking a gun to your head and forcing
you to download it, but let it be for others with a sense of humor to enjoy.
I put it on my boss's machine and he died laughing when found out the truth.
Live a little!

--Bill Waits
If you won't like the answer, then don't ask the question!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 12:46:30 PST
From: Kevin Purcell (Rho) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Is/has anyone used TimesTwo?

TimesTwo is a driver based disk compression tool (are there any others
for the Mac that are driver based?).

I'd be interested in hearing reports from people using this product,
especially on smaller machines ("classic" Macs and LC). Any
incompatibilities or problems?

I summarise and post any replies I get.

Kevin Purcell N7WIM / G8UDP
[e-mail]
"We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells"

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 12:30:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ian C McCall <[e-mail]>
Subject: LC's with VGA monitors

Hello.

I'd like to connect my LC to a VGA monitor, and have a couple of
questions to ask in the hope that someone who knows a bit more about
this than I do might give me a hand.

Firstly - do I need VGA or SVGA? If I plugged in an SVGA, would the LC
be able to take advantage of the extra resolution?

Secondly, how does the colour react to a VGA monitor being attached? I
believe I need to add another 512k VRAM to stay in 256 colours, but
would adding more than that take me up to 24bit or is there more to it
than that? I suspect there might be more, looking at the cost of 24bit
boards...

Finally, I'll be upgrading from a 12" colour. Since it seems unlikely
I'll be able to sell this, is there any chance of me be able to use it
as a second monitor?

Thanks in advance for any help.


Cheers,
    Ian

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 19:43:38 UTC+0200
From: Rafael Collantes <[e-mail]>
Subject: LCIII SVGA Video??

Hi!
As far as I know, the LCIII supports monitors up to 16" :-).
I would like to know if it is able to drive a SVGA 800*600 monitor.
Bit depth?
Any info/opinion appreciated.
Regards from Spain.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:36:18 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Guy LOUIS)
Subject: Looking for LaserLog utility (Q)

Hello from Belgium,

I need a freeware utility, whose name is LaserLog, and which tells
statistical activity of a LaserWriter on a net.

Where can I find it?

Guy LOUIS

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 11:42 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macintalk? Macinmute

Humph.  I've never been able to get Macintalk to work on our Quadra 700, and
in recent days I've been trying again in conjunction with the very fine
speaking text editor Tex-Edit, but to no avail.  This Mac remains resolutely
dumb.  What am I doing wrong?  I believe I have the latest/last version of
Macintalk for System 7, which I ftp'ed from wuarchive.wustl.edu.  It's in
my System Folder and Tex-Edit can see it.  Suggestions please.  Thanks in
advance

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 09:42:43 -0500
From: "Steve Marsh"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacInTax Problems (C)

Just my $0.02 - I don't think that ChipSoft should be able to get away with
blaming the Apple Installer program for the problems that arise with
installing
MacInTax. They were "forced" to use it?? Remember, the purpose of any
installer
is to decompress files and make sure that they all are put in the proper
places
on your hard disk. This CAN be done manually, if the automated process causes
glitches, lest we forget. (Even fonts can be installed, and a well-written
instruction procedure in a *gasp* manual would allow mac novices to accomplish
this feat.) The number of required files and their placement should be
simplified by the software authors. I think that many people are getting a
little "installer-crazy," which leads to a plethora of files installed,
removed,
and rearranged all over the hard disk. It may seem simpler, but installation
glitches, incompatibilities, and a messier hard disk is the price we pay for
this "simplicity." By the way, ChipSoft and MacInTax have been around for
quite
a while and, given the critical nature of this software ($$$), they really
have
NO excuse for not providing a reliable software package that can be installed
cleanly.

- Steve Marsh  "[e-mail]"   ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 18:54 CST
From: Daniel Schwalbe <[e-mail]>
Subject: MATLAB and Error of Type 1 (R)

> I use MATLAB with system 7.0.dot on a Mac IIfx, with 20 Mb ram.
> I frequently get the following error message:The application "unknown"
> has unexpectedly quit because an error of type 1 has occurred. This causes
> all my unsaved work to be lost.

I had similiar errors occur using Maple V on a Mac IIci with
system 7.0.dot.  Since I upgraded to 7.1 I haven't had this
particular type of error.

------------------------------

Date: 24 Feb 1993 09:45:37 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Maximum Memory on Mac Plus

     Maximum Memory on Mac Plus (A)
[e-mail] (Alan Stein) asks:

>What's the maximum memory on a Mac Plus?  I thought it was 4 megs, but
>someone told me that one reason a network was running slowly was the
>there wasn't enough memory on the Mac Plusses on the network (there
>are three of them, and they all have 4 megs).
>
>While I'm on the subject, I have the same question about Classics and LCs.

Four SIMM sockets in two banks, using maximum of 1 MB chips will give a
maximum on the Plus of 4MB.

Possible configurations:
   Plus/SE             1, 2, 2.5, 4 MB
   Classic             1, 2, 2.5, 4 MB
   Classic II          2, 4, 6, 10 MB
   LC                  2, 4, 6, 10 MB
   LCII                4, 6, 8, 10 MB  (Actually 12MB could be installed
                    but ROMs only address up to 10MB.)

You can find the answer to this an many other memory questions by looking
in the report directory at sumex:
          info-mac/report/mac-memory-chart.hqx
          info-mac/report/mac-memory-guide.hqx

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 08:55:13 -0700
From: [e-mail] (John Daspit, C.U. LASP,
[phone])
Subject: Music notation software

Hi all,
    There used to be a demo of some music notation software in
the archives called Lime (I think). Does anyone still have a copy of it,
or any other software that allows entry (and printing) of musical notation?
Thanks! JD

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:41:22 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Carol Conti-Entin)
Subject: Mysterious Icon--What Program, and Why Loading BEFORE Antiviral?

An organization where I volunteer started getting a new start-up
icon a few weeks ago on one of its SEs. It loads first [BEFORE
SAM, alas] and looks like a topless box with a phone on the front,
a screwdriver poking the phone, and the head of a hammer emerging
>From inside the open box.

Removing inits and folders from the (System 6.0.8) System Folder,
then restarting, did not make the icon disappear. I finally let
ResEdit (about which I know little) poke around inside of the
System file, and in the ICN# area there was the picture described
above, with an ID of -32512. Next to it were three similar icons
(presumably for when the mystery init has trouble loading) bearing
ID numbers of -32511, -32510, and -32509.

Does anyone know for certain what this icon does? Since the user
of this Mac upgraded to Microsoft Works 3.0 shortly before she
began noticing this icon, my guess is that it has something to do
with Works' communications software, but she checked the Works
manual and found nothing to confirm this. If this is the answer,
why does Microsoft load it before virus protection, and how can
that be corrected?

Thanks in advance for your help.

--
Carol Conti-Entin      216-561-8720
2878 Chadbourne Road   Shaker Heights, OH  44120-2215
Free-Net: ag311        Internet: [e-mail]
     from CompuServe: >INTERNET: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 22:30:42 EST
From: "Mel Martinez"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: NuBus Boxes for SE/30 (R)

"Brion K. Lienhart" <[e-mail]> writes:

> A couple of years ago I used to see ads for NuBus expansion boxes for
SE/30s.
> You plugged it in, and it gave you several standard NuBus slots in another
> box.
> I'll soon have the money to buy one, but I haven't seen anything on them
> lately though. Are they still around? Did they die a horrible flaming death
> due to terrible performance, lack of interest, or what?

They are apparently alive and well.  The only company I know of that makes
them
is Second Wave, Inc.  There was a recent blurb on them in MacWeek (1/25/93
p.4)
mentioning how they have expanded the models they support to include the Duo
Docks.  Basically, they make two main products of interest here:  the Expanse
NB4 and the Expanse NB8, which are expansion boxes that provide, you guesses
it
4 or 8 NuBus slots, respectively.  Note that to install one of these boxes
will
require the use of on of your existing NuBus slots (or in the case of the
SE/30,
the PDS slot) so the net gain is only 3 or slots.  The boxes come with their
own
power supplies and can support extra hardrives as well inside.  The list
prices
in the MW blurb are $1295 and $2295.  Second Wave used to offer education
discounts though, so that may be worth pursuing.  The number is [phone]
which is Austin, TX, for those concerned about long distance.

I hope this is helpful.

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 11:57:50 EST
From: [e-mail] (John Lillibridge)
Subject: Old SE, System 7 Font conflicts (Q)

After running System 7 on my Mac IIcx at work for nearly a year, I finally
decided to upgrade my SE at home. Using Installer and the set of eight 800K
disks, I was successful in reaching 7.0 on the SE.  However, I immediately
noticed that there was font confusion in the Finder.  For example, the
"About this Macintosh" dialog box obviously had the wrong fonts in it.

I finally determined that the New York font in the System file was the
culprit.
If I removed all bitmap as well as TrueType versions of the New York font,
things seemed to be back to normal.  This probably happens because the font ID
of the New York font family is lower than that of Geneva, which is so often
used for dialogs, etc. by the Finder.

Has anyone ever heard of this problem, and aware of a fix?  I tried a bunch of
things with ResEdit 2.1, but with no success.  Perhaps this has to do with the
fact that my SE is one of the originals (ca. April, 1987) with two 800K floppy
drives, and the ROM is outdated in some fashion.

Any help from the collective wisdom is most appreciated!

John Lillibridge ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 22:44:00 CST
From: [e-mail] (Edward Floden)
Subject: Personal CD-ROMs?

Having a large (>600 disks, and rising) collection of software, a hard
drive that's not large enough to hold it all, and a CD-ROM drive that could
solve the problem, I'd like to know: does anyone have a service where
they'd copy all of my floppies onto a single CD-ROM, just so I can get rid
of this mountain of disks?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 05:03:22 GMT
From: Stewart Walker <[e-mail]>
Subject: Photographic composites from Video [partial A]

The quality from the RasterOps boards such as the 24STV seem
particularly good. S-VHS is clearly preferable if high quality is
desired.

------------------------------

Date: 24 Feb 1993 09:10:49 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerBook 140 Screen Proble

     PowerBook 140 Screen Problem (Q)
attjpn!attjp4![e-mail] writes to say:

>I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem.  My PowerBook 140's
>screen on start-up went all black (i.e. back light still on but all
>pixels turn black regardless of contrast setting).  Sometimes, instead
>of all black, some interesting patterns showed up on the screen but
>they quickly went back to all black.  This happened once last week
>and then consistantly this week at every start-up.
>
>My PowerBook is out of warrenty so I thought I should at least look
>at the screen connections.  Opening the main housing and re-seating
>the screen cable did not help.  I then opened the screen case and
>removed the screen from the aluminum shielding.  Both the screen data
>cable and power cable looked okay, so I just put everything back and
>figured I had failed to find anything wrong.  BUT, when I powered on
>the Mac, the screen worked fine!  Has been working after several
>start-ups with no sign of the problem.
>
>Could anyone give me some idea what was wrong and tell me if I
>actually did something to fix it?  Right now I'm guessing the problem
>will return.

One of my users is experiencing a similar problem.  When she boots up
her PB 140, all the pixels went black, and there's a "comb-like" pattern
along the bottom of her title bar, which goes away when the desktop
comes up.  This pattern sometimes appears in open Finder windows as
well.  The most perturbing problem is that frequently the characters
on her screen (in the menu bar, in the title bar of windows, in an
open document in Word, and even icons visible on the desktop) will
"break up" --- that is they'll lose pixels.  Sometimes, the severity
is such that you cannot even read what being typed.  Also, occassionally,
when a number of windows are opened in the Finder, you get "vibrating
striations" about a third of the way down the screen approximately an
inch high.  They don't affect the windows; but you can see them in the
background.  And these striations get worse if you resize your window to
a larger size.

Whew!  This ones's weird!!  Does anyone have any ideas for my problem
or for the one posted by attjpn!attjp4![e-mail]?  I'm cross-
posting this to MAC-L, Info-Mac, and the newly formed MACPB-L.

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: 24 Feb 1993 08:13:52 U
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Public Lab Utils (A)

     Public Lab Utils (A)
Andrew Vernon <[e-mail]> asks:

>My user group is consulting a new public Mac lab in our student center.
>But, since this is the first public Mac lab on campus, they have been
>experiencing trouble with users trashing systems, smuggling in pirateware
>and leaving artifacts on the hard drives. My question to all of you is:
>What are the most helpful tools for lab administrators?  I would prefer
>to hear about only free/shareware products, since our budget may not allow
>for a number of software purposes.

See Info-Mac #11-40 under the heading "Restoring a default configuration".

My answer is to use RevRdist.  You can set up a default configuration on
a server, and use RevRdist to download a fresh set of configurations/
files/folders to each workstation Mac.

The one address I gave in I-M #11-40 for ftp'ing from (j.cc.purdue.edu)
gave me some problems.  Jim Schenk <[e-mail]> alerted me to
the problem with the Purdue site,  so I downloaded from src.doc.ic.ac.uk
instead, and sent him a copy (v. 1.2b10).  I then realized that the first
address should be cc.purdue.edu (archie showed it as j.cc.purdue.edu).
When I checked there, I found a newer version 1.4.0.8 (they're also beta
testing 1.4b13).  There seems to be a lot of demand for this, so I'm
posting RevRdist 1.4.0.8 to sumex.  Watch for it!    :-)

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 13:46:16 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Public Lab Utils (R)

Vernon writes:

>My user group is consulting a new public Mac lab in our student center.
>But, since this is the first public Mac lab on campus, they have been
>experiencing trouble with users trashing systems, smuggling in pirateware
>and leaving artifacts on the hard drives. My question to all of you is:
>What are the most helpful tools for lab administrators?  I would prefer
>to hear about only free/shareware products, since our budget may not allow
>for a number of software purposes.

I setup a small lab of several Macs about two years ago for students and
Grads to use.  That's when times were better, so I purchased a 10 pack of
FileGuard from ASD Software for around $630 and installed it.  I strongly
support freeware but File Guard seems very bullet proof.  Although they
have demolished a printer, no one has destroyed a system folder or
application since.  On the other hand, a temporary lab of several Macs was
setup recently, and although PD security software was installed, the
students have already trashed a system folder which the server can't
rebuild.

Using MacTools, I  did give the students a small "temporary" partition to
store programs in, which of course, they remove as soon as they are
finished.  These Macs are still running system 6.0x so I can't confirm away
bugs in the 7.x version of FileGuard.

It is the only product that I have used which password protects a volume in
such a way that I haven't been able to defeat.  This feature alone can be
useful in protecting Macs which contain sensitive information .

There is certainly an increasing need for affordable public lab security
software.  Hopefully someone will write the software which solves the
security and printer usage problems that are presented by public computer
labs.

-Ron Rieg

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 11:39:04 CST
From: [e-mail] (David Gutierrez)
Subject: Quadra VRAM installation

Quadra VRAM installation
In Info-Mac Digest V11 #43, Jamie Dananberg writes:
>We recently purchased 2 VRAM SIMMS (? 512K total, 256K each) to install
into a
>Quadra 700.

> On its return, I find out that the maximum
screen depth is still 256 colors, the same before and VRAM was added.

Your technician has probably installed the VRAM in the two slots closest to
the front of the machine, where they do nothing. The SIMMs should be
installed in the two slots closest to the back of the machine, i.e., closest
to the power supply.


David Gutierrez
Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 24 Feb 93 20:10 +0100
From: Ulf Dittmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: replace existing dialog hack

Hi netters,

I just adapted the hack that makes the "replace" button in the
"Replace existing file ?" dialog to be the default button instead
of the "cancel" button to work under System 7.1

The following is an excerpt from the original article which is
still on sumex (tech/replace-file-dialog.hqx).

"System 7.0.x

For our first hack, we have a way to make Replace rather than Cancel be the
default button.  First, edit the DITL -6045 resource.  Click on the Cancel
button, then selec"Set item number" from the menu and change the number from
2 to 1.  Close the DITL editor, and open the PACK 3 resource.  ResEdit will
warn
you that this resource is compressed and editing it will decompress it, but
never mind that.  Normally you will get the hex editor, but if you happen to
have the CODE editor installed in your copy of ResEdit, you may have to open
the
hex editor manually.  Anyway, find offset 9F0, and change 5340 to 5540.  (If
what you see at offset 9F0 is not 5340, all bets are off.)  Close the System
and
save changes."

System 7.1

The corresponding offset is A3A instead of 9F0.
The DITL resource change is the same.

Hope this helps somebody. Greetings

Ulf Dittmer

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 13:26:19 EST
From: "Patrick S. Golden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Selling used monitors

I hope somebody can point me in the right direction.

Our office has a Apple 13" HR RGB monitor that started acting
up.  The screen slowly fades to black.  Only a book placed in a
specific location can correct the problem.  The local Apple
dealer says it's caused by a bad logic board and the cost to
repair would be equalled by that of a new monitor.

Rather than trash the old one completely, we'd like to recoup
something from it.  Has anyone had experience selling an old,
damaged piece of equipment to one of those "We buy used Mac"
places that advertise in MacWorld, etc.  Specific suggestions
would be helpful as well as any alternative advice.

I'd prefer e-mail since I'm not always able to check the list.
Thanks.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:02:23 MEZ
From: Thorsten Nitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Silly questions of a new user

Hi,
I've got a few questions which have surely been discussed in this forum.
However, I'm new to it, so please bear with me (and answer in private mail).

- Is there a FAQ for this list? How do I get it?
- What is the difference between a Performa 400 and a LC II (except for
  the bundled software)?

Thanks for your patience,
    Thorsten Nitz
    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 23 Feb 93 17:17:32 PST
From: "Jack"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Speech Recognition

Hello,

I am looking for recommendations for a system/box with speech
recognition capability. My fiancee, who is dyslexic, badly needs
one to write her papers in graduate school.

We are willing to consider anything usable, in the several thousand
dollars range.  I have very little knowledge in this subject, so I
will appreciate any advice you may have.

Thank you, in advance,

    Jack Bicer



Please reply to me in person at:
    [e-mail]

Or:
    Jack Bicer
    5300 McConnell Ave. F1-10
    Los Angeles, CA 90066
    Tel: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 20:32 EDT
From: "DAVID A. BELSLEY" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stuffit 3.0.5 engine upgrade

Juan Courcoul's friend is having trouble upgrading Stuffit 3.0.5 since
he upgraded only the Deluxe application and not the engine.  Juan, the
3.0.4 engine upgrade is packaged with the "Spacesaver" upgrade sea and
not with the Stuffit Deluxe upgrade.  Don't ask me why they did such a
non obvious thing, but they did.  So expand the Spacesaver.sea and use
the engine upgrade to get engine version 3.0.4.  Then the new 3.0.5
upgrader will work fine.

------------------------------

Date: 24 Feb 1993 12:47:43 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <[e-mail]>
Subject: StyleWriter II vs. DeskWriter

I am planning on buying a printer and for me lifetime is an essential
concern.
Did anybody find out how the stylewriter II rates as compared to the
Deskwriter for lifetime?

Thanks,   Hans Kroeger

[e-mail]
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 20:57:06 -0600 (CST)
From: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Subject: SupraFAXModem 14400 v.32bis modem

    (very long message)
    With the comments flying lately due to users not able to reliably
use their Supra modem, one would think it is a shabby piece of equipment,
reaking of deceptive advertising.  "It doesn't work on my line, therefore
it is suspect...and doesn't work as advertised".
    Squirting data through ugly phone lines at 14400 baud that were
meant for voice transmission only is almost miraculous. What sounds fine
to the ear may be a moment of disaster for a high speed modem.  The phone
line and its related components might simply be unable to handle the
speed.
    As mentioned earlier, I use a SupraFAXModem 14400 v.32bis modem in
a very rural setting.  Recall that I'm the rascal who submitted to sumex
the EastTexasFrogs sound and also the EastTexasNight sound of critters
making noises in the woods.  That's how rural I am, not to mention how
rural my phone line is.  The closest city to me with over 4,000 people is
over 30 miles away.  My main road is red clay and is almost impassable
after a rain storm.
    And yet I communicate at 14400 baud with the terminal thinking I'm
at 57600 baud, on this marvelous Supra modem.
    I'll admit having to dog-ear the modem manual to get the settings
exactly the way I wanted.  I'll admit spending one week in the dungeon
changing commands and making adjustments.  And when some dumb cow trips
over the phone line cable that spans the creek and I get a burst of noise,
I don't lose connection.  This is wonderful.
    I can download a 90k Info-Mac file in 27 seconds using z-modem!
    I'd suggest rather than flaming, that users really and truly
isolate their problem.  For starters, are there extensions on the computer
line, even extensions that have a phone unplugged?  If so, you probably
have as many as four empty phone wires per connector, radiating or
receiving noise like an antenna. If you still have phones plugged into the
extension line, maybe the phone is past the FCC's or Telecommunication's
(PTL) guide rating, thus admitting or transmitting rf energy.
    I have a case of a friend of mine who can connect her Supra modem
to one of her phone lines and the modem dies, and can connect it to her
daughter's phone line and it works PERFECTLY.
    You might have ratty in-house connections.  Did you know that if a
connector has corrosion on it, that it can possibly rectify radio signals,
being a pseudo-diode?
    Finally...all the negative messages (over 100, right?) against
Supra... on Supra's BBS.  I have only called that BBS three times with all
three being to read the latest bulletins.  I have never gone to the
message base.  Why should I?  The modem works so fantastically!
Statistically, wouldn't it be possible that THOUSANDS of happy users have
never posted because they haven't had a need to?  I would certainly think
and assume that a BBS such as Supra's would attract those who have
difficulties, rather than attracting those who don't.
    And to close, below this message is an article by a telephone
technician regarding line noise.  Cheers and good luck!

(A VERY happy Supra 14400 v.32bis user in VERY rural East Texas)
--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

message follows:

>From tenet.edu!lrymal Sat, 19 Sep 1992 02:11:52 GMT
Newsgroups: tenet.computers.mac
Path: tenet.edu!lrymal
From: lrymal (Larry Rymal)
Subject: Re: The "right" Mac modem
Organization: The Texas Education Network
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1992 02:11:52 GMT


The following comes from the September 1992 issue of GEnie Lamp and
may be reprinted as long as GEnie Lamp issue title and article
authorship remains intact.

REGARDING LINE NOISE: a response to user posts about noise.
Richard Brown [R.BROWN30]


Good To Know! I'm afraid I have to agree with you about working with the
phone company regarding line noise.  I work for Michigan Bell as a cable
splicer, and before then I was a repairman.

For the past few years I've had a lot of battles with management
about this topic.  I got nowhere with them either.  There are two
problem areas.  First, the vast majority of station repairman are not
trained in repairing problems related with data lines.  It requires
some special equipment also.  In our area, the only people with this
knowledge and training are the Large Business Technicians.  These are
generally repairman/installers who do nothing but work for companies,
and a lot of their work is on data lines.

What you need to do is request (demand?) that the repair department
send out one of these people instead of a regular repairman.  If you
don't get anywhere then demand to talk to a supervisor.  If that
doesn't help, start calling your local public service commission.
Unfortunately, in most cases you have to make a lot of noise.

Here is another fact.  The phone company will tell you that there is
nothing in the tariffs that say a "plain old telephone service" line
will support data.  This is true.  But the tariffs and the FCC
regulations require that the phone line come up to a certain
requirements.  If these requirements are met your phone line should
easily handle 2400 baud service.  When you run 9600 baud and higher
you are at the very top of those limits and it's not reasonable for
Bell to supply every customer with perfect lines. But there are ways
to cure noise ratio and Db Loss problems very simply.  But that gets
back to my first comment...the repairmen are not properly trained to
fix data lines.

I have found a simple way to cure most problems with data lines.  It
doesn't solve them all but it's worked for me in 13 out of 15
attempts. Ask your repair department to install an RF filter to
reduce radio noise coming through the phone lines, and also place a
Db Pad (Bell calls them a "97A Jack").  The pad is especially
important if you live near the central office (where the dialtone
comes from).  It may cost you a small installation fee.  If you just
ask the repairman to install them he may even do it just to get you
off his back.

Some day the government will ease off the phone company and we will
start putting fiber optic cables directly to every home.  Then you
can enjoy super fast data without any noise at all.

--
--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 10:30:19 +0100
From: [e-mail] \n \n  (Beno\nt DE NAYER)
Subject: suprafax v32 bis

Two weeks ago, I've bought a suprafax V32 bis Modem. It works very fine in
data mode but I've encountered many problems when using it in Fax mode (on
a Mac Plus running os 6.07 ); it never accepts incoming faxes.
I am very disappointed because this modem does not come cheap. It costs
about 20.000 bef ( 650 $) in Belgium: a very expensive broken toy! For that
price I could have acquired two PC modems.
Could someone give me more information about the Rom replacement that would
fix the problem?


Benoit de Nayer
Centre de Droit de la consommation
Universit Catholique de Louvain
Tel [phone] fax [phone]

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 21:17:13 -0500
From: Jeffrey Rounsville <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7.0.1 vs. 7.1?

Howdy.  I was thinking of upgrading from 7.0.1 to 7.1.  I have a PowerBook
145 and was wondering what the major differences are between the two.
Will I experience any problems or will I need an enabler?  Basically,
should I do it?
Thanks,
Matt Herbison
[e-mail]

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Date: 24 Feb 93 23:46:56 GMT
From: [e-mail] (John A. Feinberg)
Subject: The hardware system upgrade is great!

I just downloaded the Apple Hardware System Update image, and it is
fantastic!
I had been having all sorts of problems with high speed (14.4k) zmodem
transfers, and my problems are over!  Incidentally, I am using a IIsi with
7.1, which is one of the machines on the list covered by the update.

John Feinberg
SUNY Buffalo

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 9:35:32 AST
From: "Gilmen Smyth"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: VIRTUAL MEMORY

Is Virtual Memory possible with a Mac Classic using System 7?  If the
answer is yes, what is the way to do it?

Gilmen Smyth
Centre universitaire Saint-Louis-Maillet
EDMUNDSTON, N.B. Canada
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 11:16 N
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Window title bar behind menu bar (Q)

This morning, when I opened a document of mine, the window was shifted up
that far, that the window title bar is completely hidden behind the menu bar.
I now can't move the window, can't zoom it and doesn't see the first ten or
so pixels of the window contents.
Do you know of a utility to move the window down, or do you know of any
commands to enter in MacsBug to zoom or move it ?

Thanks.
Dan Wismer      University of Fribourg          Switzerland
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 22:48:05 +0500 (EST)
From: "J. David Stradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Word 5.0 Line Weight (Q)

Is there any way to change the line weight of the underline in Word 5.0?
The default is too heavy for some fonts. If this is not an option in Word
5.0, is it available in 5.1.

Send responses to me and I will summarize to the Digest.

Thanks,

J. David Stradley

<[e-mail]> or
<[e-mail]
[phone]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 08:07:19 EST
From: "LISA L.W. BESKO" <[e-mail]>
Subject: X Windows for the Mac

Are there any other X Windows programs for the Mac besides MacX? if so, are
they any better? faster?

We are currently running MacX on several Mac IIsi's to connect to a DEC/VMS
machine.  The response we receive from the Vax is sluggish.  We need some
input
on either how to improve the response of the current MacX or the names of some
other X Windows products.

Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated.

Lisa Besko

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 01:37:31 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken Linger)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: lingeke2
From: [e-mail] (Ken Linger)
Subject: A Better Disk Light?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Purdue University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 06:37:25 GMT
Lines: 10

[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.mac.apps ]
[ Author was Ken Linger ]
[ Posted on Wed, 24 Feb 1993 06:32:13 GMT ]

Can anyone tell me if there is a disk light type program that uses the lights
on the extended keyboard rather than on the menu bar?  Perhaps there is a
hack for an already existing program to do this.  If not, it couldn't be
too hard to write, could it?

Ken Linger

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 13:45:28 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Hoepfner)

Moderator:

   I tried to download the file "gcc-1371r14-all.hqx" from the
"info-mac/lang" using TurboGopher 1.0.5 and it reports "Not a valid BinHex
file".  This may be because it was gotten from "ftp.apple.com" in the first
couple of days.

   Whan I first downloaded the file from "ftp.apple.com" with FTP to a unix
machine, the "mcvert" program would not convert it and "vi" reported that
the line length was too long.  I send a message to the ftp.apple.com
administrator saying that I thought it was sent to ftp.apple.com as a
binary file (using <CR> and line delimeters rather than the unix <LF>).  He
said thnaks and fixed it I thought.  You might want to get a fresh copy
>From ftp.apple.com and then the gophers won't have a BinHex problem.

   aTdHvAaNnKcSe.

-- Pat ---------------------------------------> [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 22:08 GMT
From: [e-mail]

I would like to be able to print text over (greyed) graphics in
Word 5.0.  The graphic might be full-page or,if not, would be
centered on the print area. I have not been able to find anything
in the W5 manual about this but possibly I may not be looking in
the correct place. If someone can send me instructions (or point
me at the relevant part of the manual) I would appreciate contact
at the BITNET address below. Thank you in advance.
F.J. Lalor, Department of Chemistry University College,Cork,Ireland.
[e-mail]

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